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I've seen, in a variety of places, decrying of what's sometimes called "Tumblr-speak," especially targeted toward the term "feels." "You should just say you feel something, not this ridiculous 'I have feels' thing," the argument goes. But today I wish to step up to the plate and give a light-hearted defense of "feels" for a moment--bear with me!





My main argument is that "feels" are actually qualitatively different from "feelings," and "having feels" is different from "having feelings" or "feeling something." "Feels" is actually a perfectly cromulent very useful word that describes a quite different emotional experience than "feeling" something. Specifically, feels are on the whole reserved for feelings related to the experience of fannish pleasure--in my experience, with an overtone of "a subset of extremely intense feelings that we all understand are linked to a fictional artifact." I've never heard anyone say something like "I had a lot of feels at my grandfather's funeral"--"feels" are reserved for Phil Coulson or the Doctor. I do see it used sometimes for a similar thing--emotions that are understood as fleeting but still crushingly intense while experienced--but on the whole it's used most often to discuss reactions to people and things not part of our day-to-day lives (Katara, Robert Downey Jr.).



"Feels" is a handy shorthand that serves to delineate a specific kind of emotional experience: one marked by intensity and purity that transcends "day to day" emotions of happiness and sorrow (with their often-muddied, contradictory undertones).



It's also a tongue-in-cheek way to downplay those emotions, to ironically distance yourself from them a little bit and make clear you don't take them that seriously. They're not feelings, they're feels. It's actually an incredibly useful and complex term, one that serves to mark a very specific kind of experience and to simultaneously elevate and disparage it. Feels are overwhelming, they blot out everything in a rush of emotion, either good or bad.



Feels are something to be savored and--at a certain level--enjoyed, even when they're negative. Sad feelings are awful; but watching something that gives you sad feels has a certain hyper-real pleasure to it (obviously, or certain creators wouldn't have such huge followings!)



The term is, far from being a corruption of the language, an elegantly precise word that serves a very useful function. So next time you feel reluctant to say something "hit you right in the feels" or to cry out "ow, my feels!" embrace your inner fan, let go of your inner grammarian, and go for it!

And with that, I humbly take my leave of you. Thank you for your consideration! Perhaps next year I shall try to parse and defend "I have lost my ability to can."

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Date: 2013-05-17 03:29 pm (UTC)
opusculasedfera: stack of books, with a mug of tea on top (Default)
From: [personal profile] opusculasedfera
Nicely put! It really is a different word, not just a shortening of "feelings." You'd think people would notice that they're used quite differently: when was the last time you heard someone say "I'm having a feeling about this" or "this gives me an emotion"? ;)

I'd say though that 'feels' are pure in their intensity, but also much more muddled than 'feelings'? For me, 'feels' often indicates having a bunch of emotions at once, particularly in that way that fiction can provide where, say, you're simultaneously excited because there's a new episode of your tv show, fascinated by its plot twist, and very upset because the plot twist makes a character you like sad, even if you think it's good for the story as a whole. It's not a word for the perhaps conflicting emotions you might feel about, say, a drawn-out break-up, but it's also not the word for straightforward "goddamn, $actor is hot" or "this kitten gif is the CUTEST" emotions because it's easier to attach specific terms to those?

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Date: 2013-05-17 07:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alltoseek
For me, 'feels' often indicates having a bunch of emotions at once, particularly in that way that fiction can provide

Yes, this too.

Besides, fandom is also a place to let go of our inner adult control-freak that has to present as professional uber!mature all the time. We can relax and be silly. And have ~feels~. Lots and lots of feels. And not have to articulate exactly what we mean by those feels because everyone else (in fandom) already knows :D

You should do the "I have lost the ability to can" one too. Part of that is from when we are so overwhelmed by the ~feels~ that we have lost the ability to articulate what exactly we are feeling, and also we no longer even care to spend all that effort trying to articulate, because we don't even have to, since we have this lovely expression already created for us to use :-)

Not to mention this shorthand is an easy way for people from a variety of language backgrounds to have some fandom slang to communicate.

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Date: 2013-05-17 09:27 pm (UTC)
mekare: Flower patterned Japanese paper (Default)
From: [personal profile] mekare
It's actually an incredibly useful and complex term, one that serves to mark a very specific kind of experience and to simultaneously elevate and disparage it.

I agree! I have always understood feels as only appropriate for emotions generated by fannish things.

And, OMG that kaonashi gif! Wonderful! It reminded me of my love for Spirited Away and inspired me to this.

Edited (because actually this wasn't meant to be a reply to this thread but now it is): Besides, fandom is also a place to let go of our inner adult control-freak that has to present as professional uber!mature all the time.

Yes! My inner child is whooping with joy/crushed by despair/gleeful like a gleeful thing/etc over fannish things. It is a nice counterbalance to real life.
Edited Date: 2013-05-17 09:33 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2013-05-18 04:51 pm (UTC)
mekare: Flower patterned Japanese paper (Default)
From: [personal profile] mekare
I liked him immensely when I first watched Spirited Away. He just seemed so bewildered, not intentionally bad just overwhelmed and wanting people to like him.

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Date: 2013-05-18 06:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alltoseek
I just really like the chance to *flail* and go "OMG Stephen bby my fEELs OMG."

I think when confronted by loquacious perspicacious everything-acious Stephen, that's pretty much the only rational response anyway: "Oh yeah? Well" *flails* "~FEELS~ So there!!11!1!!"

... Now I think of it, that's pretty much what Jack does. Only with a violin.

:D :D :D

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Date: 2013-05-18 12:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] opusculasedfera
Perhaps the purity of it is more that it's just an emotion without necessary action attached? Obviously fandom does do tons of things in response to feels, but you don't HAVE to. If you want to flail about Sherlock's death and only flail, that's ok, in a way that it's not really ok if you're dealing with a rl death, or even a less serious rl event.


I don't know about fun, but it's certainly interesting? I like the idea that our mostly-female group is laying claim to having emotions and anguish and feeling really deeply about technical irrelevancies. Especially when you get (mostly) men going off the deep end about the incredible anguish of sports and how there are no words to describe the intensity and how enjoyable it is to raise hopes, and even have them dashed, and it's the best, truest thing in the world, etc., etc. and you just want to say, "yeah, buddy, you're just having feels, it's ok." Not that there's anything wrong with sports feels, but they're certainly not more meaningful than fandom feels, and I like how we've simply come to terms with them, instead of writing new articles monthly about how, gosh, has anyone noticed that sports inspire strong emotions, and sometimes, those emotions are not wholly joyous, but they are still nice to have????? How can this beeeeee????

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Date: 2013-05-18 04:55 pm (UTC)
mekare: Flower patterned Japanese paper (Default)
From: [personal profile] mekare
LOL, your sports analogy is so true!

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Date: 2013-05-19 05:00 pm (UTC)
opusculasedfera: stack of books, with a mug of tea on top (Default)
From: [personal profile] opusculasedfera
Interesting! I've never heard anyone use "nerd tears" before. In my experience, male-dominated fandom is still somewhat preoccupied with defending their interest in the fannish object at all, let alone their feels. Which, I suppose, is probably why it's sports that seems closest to admitting to feels, because they don't have to justify liking their thing to people, only the intensity of their emotions.

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Date: 2013-05-17 04:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lunabee34
This is a very cleverly put together post. Thanks for explaining the lingo to those of us not tumblring. :)

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Date: 2013-05-17 04:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dhamphir
Well put. Although, I've never been on Tumblr. My experience with "feels" is strictly from LJ. Perhaps is just more prevalent on Tumblr.

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Date: 2013-05-18 03:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dhamphir
Considering LJ was around before Tumblr, I'd say Tumblr just picked it up elsewhere (maybe LJ or maybe somewhere else) and just happens to use it excessively.

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Date: 2013-05-17 04:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] talitha78
Thank you for a very enjoyable read! Loved all of the gifs. :)

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Date: 2013-05-17 05:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] willow
Language changes and evolves. There are Victorians I am sure who'd think a bunch of us (particularly those who use USian English) to have utterly bastardized the language; if y'know they were sentient zombies (being all dead).

Fannish speak and net speak (which now has sub dialects apparently; twitter speak, Tumblr speak etc...) are in a way branches off English (and the other mother tongues of various fans with their own idiosyncrasies). And has whomever is complaining not noticed that 'feels' and similar are also part of a VISUAL language?

I had no idea at all that there was a 'Speak The Queen's English' going on about feels, or 'I can't' or 'THIS' said in all caps that means so much more than in general use of a thing as in this or that.

But then again... my religion is Batman. WTH do I know.

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Date: 2013-05-17 09:29 pm (UTC)
mekare: Flower patterned Japanese paper (Default)
From: [personal profile] mekare
my religion is Batman

OMG THIS. To demonstrate a point. :-)

ETA: Sadly enough not only zombie!Victorians would be appalled at "the state of the English language" today in all its wonderful diversity. There still are some "defenders of purity/standards" (or whatever they call themselves).
Edited Date: 2013-05-17 09:35 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2013-05-18 06:12 am (UTC)
alltoseek: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alltoseek
there is no denying that there's a whole visual vocabulary

Considering you could not possibly have done a post on ~feels~ without the gifs, yes, there is certainly no denying it!

It's funny, because now people will respond with a gif without even using the gif:

popcorn.gif

crushedbyfeels.gif

werenotacouple.gif

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Date: 2013-05-27 12:50 am (UTC)
feuervogel: photo of the statue of Victory and her chariot on the Brandenburg Gate (Default)
From: [personal profile] feuervogel
picardrikerdoublefacepalm.jpg (or .gif)

(as another example, I mean)
Edited Date: 2013-05-27 12:50 am (UTC)

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Date: 2013-05-17 06:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] phantomas
Oh, thank you for this explanation, I'm a Tumblr regular (these days, not even an LJ regualr, sigh) but I happened to see 'feels' and was wondering whether it was understood in fannish speak as more than just an abbreviation of feelings...and it is :D

As a fan, I perfectly understand where 'feels' comes from. Fandom emotions are somewhat different from Real Life emotions.Also,l I love your gifs :)

thanks!

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Date: 2013-05-17 08:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scheherezhad
Yes, perfect. :D

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Date: 2013-05-17 10:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] china_shop
Hee! I'm not a tumblrite, so I appreciate this explanation, and I LOVE all the gifs. *hearts*

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Date: 2013-05-18 08:33 am (UTC)
tropicsbear: Tadashi carrying Ainosuke bridal style (Batman: thinky thoughts)
From: [personal profile] tropicsbear
Language evolves everyday and to disparage the term 'feels' when its usage is completely different from 'feelings' seems weird to me.

And in my experience, it's always been in reaction to something fannish, rarely used (if ever) to apply to things in Real Life.

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Date: 2013-05-18 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glymr
This made me think of a tumblr post I saw awhile ago. I am going to paste it in its entirety here, because it is very relevant, but please know that these are not my words and the original is here: http://notbecauseofvictories.tumblr.com/post/43704982765/oh-okay-one-last-thing-before-i-get-off-the

"oh okay one last thing before I get off the internet—

I’ve been thinking lately about tumblr, and how its mostly-female users appeal to over-the-top emotional language (e.g., my feels, i can’t, cries, ARGH, and variants thereof.)

And it’s interesting, because most of us exist in societies that see excessive emotion as worthy of ridicule, an indication of irrationality, and “hysteric.” Feelings have become feminized, and what is feminine is deviant, Other, lesser. Pathos used to be a valid argumentative strategy—now, an argument rooted in emotion isn’t just bad, it’s invalid. And what is invalid can be dismissed without thought. (It’s unworthy of thought.)

But on tumblr, emotion is linked to power. Explicitly so. Feels can kill, feels can hurt, feels drive the creation of graphics/meta/fic and fierce battles over canonicity or interpretations. Feels are the currency with which you buy your right to fannishness.

Our reaction to a society that dismisses emotion as baseless is to crank that shit up to eleven and make it the gate through which you must pass to enter the community.

we’ve weaponized emotion.

how cool is that?"


glymr here again. That post triggered a lot of thoughts, especially the commentary on how we've come to regard arguments based in emotion as invalid. And yet, there are some arguments which are based in emotion which are entirely valid: "That makes me uncomfortable, that makes me feel like you don't respect my gender/race/sexuality/etc" but which people will often respond to with "logic": "You shouldn't feel that way BECAUSE..." This is only tangentially related to your original (fascinating) discussion, but I was glad you reminded me of it and thought I'd share.

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Date: 2013-05-27 12:51 am (UTC)
feuervogel: photo of the statue of Victory and her chariot on the Brandenburg Gate (Default)
From: [personal profile] feuervogel
I loved that post. Weaponized emotion. I should go fave it now so I don't lose it again.

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Date: 2013-05-19 02:09 am (UTC)
tree: liesel from the sound of music; text: rolf gave me syphilis ([else] drowning in bad fanfic)
From: [personal profile] tree
this is excellent and well-articulated. A+ use of gifs, the washing machine in particular. i have been that washing machine.

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Date: 2013-05-21 03:44 pm (UTC)
alltoseek: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alltoseek
tumblr post for you: http://netherworldvineyard.tumblr.com/post/50972242664/bigplanssforthatfish-reblogallthenerdythings

though it has a million notes so you've prolly seen it

WHAT IS UR TUMBLR???!!!

Also for some reason on my dash I see the whole thing but when I try to opne just the post it won't show the rest of the commentary, which goes like this:

no listen this is actually really amazing because this is a real thing. i think this counts as a pidgin language. a pidgin language is basically a changed, simplified version of a language. you can change the spellings of words, pronunciation, grammar rules, or even make up new words. i think. i’d have to research it a bit more to be sure but i’m 90% sure this is right. if its not a pidgin language, then its a lingua franca but thats more used for trade and stuff like that. but still a new language. so yes, we’ve created our own language. we’ve changed the whole sentence structure. we can trail off sentences, say things like “i just cant”, and use words like ship, OTP, fic, fandom, feels, and ship names and everyone will understand what you’re saying. the part that i love most is how people go “OMGH IM CRIIY NIG SOIOO HARD” and understand each other. for example “IM LIUA GHMNIG”. that one was incredibly easy, but if you knew that said “I’m laughing”, congratulations. You speak a pidgin language. we can even say stuff like “Does anyone know of a Johnlock fic, at least 20k words, not a WIP, with no OCs, and is Post-Reichenbach? Or just a Destiel PWP would be great.” To someone not on tumblr, that wouldn’t make any sense. but you understood, didn’t you? One characteristic of a pidgin language is that you have to learn it like a second language. Another characteristic is that it is frequently changing. tumblr goes through many trends with how we talk. if i remember correctly, when i first made an account about two years ago, talking like this wasn’t quite as common. also, that thing of suddenly capitalizing your sentence is fairly recent. you know, when people go “the new epISODE IS TOMORROW”. Like one of the people up there said, all of this is awesome because how else do you easily show emotion and tone over the internet? we’ve even made a whole sense of humour that most people here share in. There’s so much more that I could talk about with this, but i’m tired and i may be entirely wrong about everything. but yes. people on the fandom side of tumblr who speak like this are speaking a new language

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Date: 2013-05-27 09:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] franzeska
Nah, it's not actually a pidgin because it's not a trade language developed between groups that lack a common language (no matter how many EFL/ESL speakers there are in English language fandom). Tumblrspeak also lacks a bunch of the common grammatical/phonological features of pidgins, but that's less telling than the lack of the required linguistic situation. I'd say it operates more like other subculture slangs, which are also prone to messing with grammar, borrowing words, making up new meanings for existing ones, etc.

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Date: 2013-05-25 03:04 pm (UTC)
metanewsmods: Abed wearing goggles (Default)
From: [personal profile] metanewsmods
Hi, would it be okay to link this at [community profile] metanews?

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Date: 2013-05-27 09:24 pm (UTC)
franzeska: (Default)
From: [personal profile] franzeska
Bwa ha ha!

Fandom has had both jargon and generation gaps before. I'm sure it will again.

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Date: 2013-06-25 09:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] everbright
I love how you made your point/demonstrated the feeling of feels with all the gifs. It definitely recalls the tumblr gifset, (though then the meta would be at the bottom.)

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